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Druid Swipe

Author: inwowgold Source:

   Just consider that a Swipe that generates a lot of threat with no targeting or positional requirement and no cooldown is almost immediately going to lead to the following:

"Druid tanking is so boring. I can just push one button and maintain aggro on anything. I can just macro Swipe to every keyboard and faceroll or bind it to my mouse wheel and tank while I surf the Internets."

Thunder Clap, Death, Decay and Consecration all have cooldowns for this reason.

To everyone who immediately responded "no, we didn't want more threat," please read the entire thread. I posted a couple of times that no set of changes is going to please everyone, and ultimately that isn't what we're trying to do because it's not a realistic goal.

We think we might try increasing threat by 50% because that is something easy to hotfix. That should buy you enough globals to do other things, and provide enough wiggle room if you get a target out of the area for one Swipe. We'll consider additional changes after we've had a chance to see how that plays out.

We haven't commented on Swipe in some time because a lot of different arguments tend to get mashed together. In turn that makes it hard for us to detect if the ability actually isn't doing its job, or if some Druids just want it to work differently, or if Druids want more different kinds of buttons to push.

We aren't going to turn Swipe into Thunder Clap, and we don't think many of you are asking for that. At present, the problen is if we changes the cone or if we changes the threat or if we added another ability, then a large portion of this thread at least would respond "you didn't fix the problem.

So the kinds of discussions, we are having are what changes to make to Swipe (if any) that will solve some of these problems without turning Swipe into Thunder Clap. Imagine that we increased the threat generated by swipe by 400% (just for the sake of argument). Now it is possible to say:

Swipe generates so much threat that we can use Mangle, Maul, Lacerate, Bash, Feral Charge or Demo Roar without worrying about losing aggro. We can spam Swipe, but why? After a hit or two, we have more than enough threat. We can afford to save it even.

If the threat was high enough, it could have a cooldown to enforce not spamming it. (We'd be very reluctant to do this though.) Swipe has a positional requirement which requires a little more planning or skill to use than Consecrate, but in return it generates a lot more threat.

As above, our point was that we are not going to make everybody happy, so you will probably find yourselves less disappointed if you don't get tied to the One True change that will fix Swipe for you.

It is very easy to look over at another character and think. That's a good thing, it means that other classes' abilities are so cool or useful that you want them. But for the same reason we are hesitant to give them to you because then the ability is less special and the classes all end up feeling really similar. If you ever switch from druid to Warrior or Paladin or Death Knight, we want you to have to relearn the class. Make sense?

We want Druids to be great AE tanks, and it may be that you aren't quite there yet. But certainly we will do it without removing the positional requirement and adding a lot of threat to Swipe.


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